There's no 16 rule, or any specific age, as far as I'm aware. Parents are encouraged to bring their kids so long as they are living with them, but no parent should ever force their child to do anything against their will unless it is life or death. Unfortunately, JWs do believe that missing meetings means death.
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Is it 16?
by Jrjw inhi can anyone tell me if it's true the society says parents must take their child to meetings until they're 16 even if they don't want to?
my ex is being a pain about me not forcing my 12 year old to be a witness.
he doesn't know i'm becoming inactive at moment so i have to be careful how i word things to him.
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Things society interferes with
by Jrjw ini was just lying here thinking about mind control and thought it'd write a list just to see how much the wts does try to control every aspect of people's lives.
some of the things i've come up with are:.
xmas,.
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Fred Franztone
Things that they don't interfere with would make for a very short thread, let's put it that way.
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Who Do JWs Fear The Most? Top Five
by Fred Franztone init's a fear-based religion, at its core.
jws fear many things, but what or who do they fear the most?
let's find out.... 5) satan.
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Fred Franztone
It's a fear-based religion, at its core. JWs fear many things, but what or who do they fear the most? Let's find out...
5) Satan
The source of all evil they say. In reality, quite a cartoonish character. I remember hearing constantly about how scary he is and how he's to blame for everything, but I don't remember ever actually being scared of him. His actions always seem very distant and abstract, revolving more around the world stage at large rather than us as individuals. Moreover, the way his entire future is all planned out makes him seem rather inconsequential, and he's viewed with contempt by JWs more than fear.
4) Eachother
The fear of being exposed as unworthy and not good enough is very real for JWs. Every witness believes they aren't doing enough preaching and are sinning way more than everyone else. The fear of being found out and humiliated or even disfellowshipped is strong, though not a mortal fear.
3) Demons
Unlike Satan, demons seem to be more involved with us as individuals. I remember hearing many stories about them and the chilling things they do. JWs are scared of demons, but only when they're mentioned. Most of the time they're out of sight, out of mind. Although they believe that demons aren't really capable of killing people, they do fear the frightening experience of encountering one, so much so that even now I feel a bit creeped out by Ouija boards, and I haven't believed in demons for many years. It's a visceral fear for JWs, but not a profound one, and quite easy for them to ignore for the most part.
2) Apostates
Whereas the JW's fear of demons mainly leads them to avoid direct encounters with demons or at the very least demonic imagery, so afraid are they of apostates that merely encountering their words terrifies them. JWs are constantly warned that even brief exposure to apostate writings is enough to destroy their faith, and with it their relationship with Jehovah and their hope of everlasting life. It's no wonder they fear us apostates so much, we are a threat to their very existence, as far as they are aware. And why are they warned that we can destroy their faith so easily? Because the governing body knows what we know, that their faith is built on very flimsy foundations. They ought to be afraid of us, losing your faith can be a traumatic experience.
1) Jehovah
No competition. This is the fear that makes all of the others seem inconsequential. This is a profound and mortal fear, the fear of everlasting death. JWs truly are God-fearing people, in the most literal sense. They are terrified of dying at Armageddon, terrified that their loving heavenly father will kill them for not living up to his standards. It's this fear that gets them to the meetings and out on the ministry. It's this fear that gets them to reach out and to pioneer. It's this fear that makes them convince themselves that they love Jehovah, you have to after all, you can't not love the dear leader. JWs have an abusive relationship with an imaginary being, brainwashed into them by a group of faithful and discreet charlatans, who ironically JWs don't fear at all, but perhaps ought to, since it's they who are pulling the strings and making them so fearful with their endless guilt-tripping and scaremongering.
JWs are very fearful people, but their fears are profoundly misplaced.
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Important spiritual food
by moreconfusedthanever intodays watchtower study is all about singing complete with instructions on how to sing.,............
"but we all have the responsibility to sing praises to jehovah.
so hold your songbook up high, lift your head, and sing with enthusiasm!".
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Fred Franztone
Their numbers would go up if they dropped the songs.
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QFR - Posting JW publications on a personal website/social media
by Listener inthe following is a qfr from the april, 2018 watchtower.
just a couple of articles back the organization was explaining how jws need to be encouraging and even when admonishing congregations jesus would start out with encouraging words.
we see none of this in the qfr, rather, it is heavy handed and legally incorrect.. why is it not permissible to post publications of jehovah’s witnesses on a personal website or on social media?.
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Fred Franztone
Imagine if a commercial organisation instructed its customers not to look at reviews of their products. JWs will read this drivel and applaud it, talk about gullible. "Bless the litigious FDS for their veiled threats of legal action, what a loving provision!"
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Friends
by Jrjw inhi does anyone have any ideas of good places for me to make non jw friends when i move coz need to replace all my jw friends for my kids and i ready for becoming inactive.
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Are We all Witnesses Here?
by Ikechukwu.info ini am new to this site, want to know who in the admin and are we all jw?.
if yes, i am from nigeria, west african.
as an active and dedicated witness i want to tread safe.. need to make some friends here; i love honesty in all things.. best regards.
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Fred Franztone
Why would you post here without first reading some of the other threads on the site. 2 minutes of skimming is all it would take to discover that this is no place for dedicated witnesses.
All you're doing is playing into African cliches of technological ineptitude, which by the looks of things may have some truth to them.
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Watchtower Rebranding
by Fred Franztone inthe wtbts has finally decided to join the rest of us in the 21st century and has begun rebranding.
they've dropped the iconic watchtower sign from their heaquarters, and it's only a matter of time till they drop the now embarrassing watchtower name completely; a name synonymous with failure on the one hand and concentration camps on the other.. the organisation will soon be known solely as jw.org, bringing them right up-to-date with the web 2.0 revolution of 15 years ago, and making them the only company still to use a full web address as their main identifier, very forward-thinking of them.. it's inevitable that they'll gradually rebrand everything.
what methods do you think they'll go with?
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Fred Franztone
My parents still call it the kingdom ministry, so they apparently aren't aware of the change and they're PIMI.
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Curiosity
by Jrjw ini was just sitting daydreaming about answering up during a watchtower and exposing one of the lies the wts has stated in the study material and wondering what the reaction would be 😊 has anyone ever done this on their way out?
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Resurrection to Heaven
by Lost in the fog inct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.
just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.
zion's watchtower 1881, january.
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Fred Franztone
read it please. 1975-2075. a composite family story. posted here
I tried to read it but it was written very strangely. Like it sort of made sense and sort of didn't. The grammar was peculiar and I didn't really understand what was going on.